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Response to: CO2031
Oct 1, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Megan13 says, “i was watching a preview for CO2031, and it was about gay marriages in Colorado. now i am straight, but this bothers me, for one, why does it matter if gay couples get married? it does not effect those of us who are straight, why does them getting married, and them being together need to be our business?? it isnt. in no way does it effect us, and i agree with those ladies on that show, everyone should be equal, and everyone should be allowed to make the decisions in their life. especially one that about marriage. “

 

 

WOW! Where to start:

 

Gays have been getting married for many years.  It was 27 years ago I went to a wedding with my parents for one of their gay friends.  The Unitarian Church married them, and they got a lawyer to situate all their assets and belongings, and willed their things to one another.  With in that same year I attended 4 such weddings.  So the problem is NOT whether or not gays can or cannot get married.  The problem is they want government to recognize and sanction their marriage, and if you think this will NOT affect anyone who is straight or has tradition family values, you are fooling yourself. 

 

If the Government acknowledges gay marriage, then it becomes government’s roll to impose these beliefs on people who do not believe.  How?  By teaching homosexuality in public schools, and to kids who’s families may not agree with that point of view.  In Massachusetts, where gay marriage has been sanctioned, gay storybooks have been introduced to YOUNG grade school kids!  This is not appropriate but is legal because they sanctioned gay marriage.  You are right in that it isn’t any of our business whether a gay person gets married or not, so then why is it important for these two women to sit in a courthouse to make the state recognize their marriage?  I contend they want to be ACCEPTED by government and there by causing government to make it acceptable to all.  Well, it’s NOT and nor should it be forced upon anyone.  It is bad for a society to do this!

 

You mentioned everyone should be equal; well let’s think about it a second...  To be equal something has to be THE SAME as something else.  Can we agree on that?

The way I love my wife is the same way as most of my male friends love their wives.  They way and how are the same thereby are equal to one another.  A man loving another man or a woman loving another woman in NOT the SAME as how I love my wife, or how my wife loves me, thereby is NOT equal.  The obvious logistical physical acts of love that IS VASTLY DIFFERENT from when a man and a woman are together, so that’s NOT equal.  The emotional relationship between and man and a woman are HUGLY different that when a man loves a man or woman loves a woman.  NOT equal at all!      

 

Should gays get married?  Yes, let them go to their local Unitarian Church and get a lawyer who can get them all situates to live their lives happily together forever!  Should Government sanction gay marriage?  No.  It’s bad for our society as a whole.

 

The love of a man and woman is what has been the standard in this country, even the world for thousands and thousands of years.  That’s how the human race has continued along the timeline.  There is something to be said for FAMILY in this world to continue on our legacies. 

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hfaylor23 read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 4:38 PM

the not the same not equal argument can be applied to anything then... i am better than you because i have more money. i am better than you because i'm white. i am better than you because i am a man.
just because it is different doesn't make it wrong. if you are morally against homosexuality, go to your church and whine. there is a seperation between church and state, and for you to feel your morals should be applied to an entire nation of people is selfish.
if continuation of family is whats important than we also need to make any sexual act that will not allow procreation illegal. right? no foreplay, no touching, just some good straight sex... give me a break.
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 2, 2007 | 7:18 AM

You give me a break! Your logic is sorely flawed by your emotion.

The more money and white argument is absurd. EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY can make as much money or as little as they want. As for your racist view white is better… ALL men are created equal, and by who? Our Creator! Americans know this and the founding fathers knew this, which is why they wrote it in our Deliration of Independence. Thank God in America the bigoted are a minority and their ideas that race matters is dying a deserving death!

I am talking about the relationships between people. A loving relationship between a man and a woman is NOT the same as a 2 gay men or women!

Sex is wonderful and so is family. Let everyone enjoy sex as they please in their own private lives and leave the government out of it!
Abunai read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 1:52 PM

Anohter angle not ever mentioned: That would also open up marriage for citizenship in a new grand scale! Men would get paid on the side to be legally married to someone else for their status.

Ever wonder why the gays don't fight for civil union rights and go straight to marriage rights?

In Canada, because they have made this presedence there are cases before their courts right now from Beasteality and Poligamy folks demanding the same rights too!

Gays, beast lovers, multiple partner, or ANY combination outside of "one man/one woman" are the slippery slope. The Gay community as much as they would like, can't disassociate themselves from any other deviant sexual behaved group outside one man/ one woman. As soon as we adopt full rights to Gays, pandora's box will be wide open!
Abunai read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 1:54 PM

(watch now..) someone from the Gay community is going to respond with the other groups being sick... Really! Thats funny because most of the humans in the world think the same of them... Hypocracy from those demanding tolerance .... being intolerable of others.
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 2, 2007 | 4:48 PM

Great points!
hfaylor23 read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 9:36 AM

so if all men are created equal, why would that not include those who are homosexual? and yes, the gay community pushed referendum i here in denver which called for civil unions. it got voted down as well.
as for comparing homosexuality to beastiality or even pedophilia, lets get serious, you can't compare a sex act between two consenting adults to an act of rape. apples and oranges.
lastly there are laws in place to prevent marriage solely for citizenship and several failsafes in place to weed these [people out, how hard would it be to continue to enforce these laws?
you two just need to come out and say it. you don't agree with homosexuality, you don't understand it and are scared of it, and thertefore it is evil in your eyes. get over ypurselves. love is universal, not just sex oriented.
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 3, 2007 | 10:00 AM

As I said before, a gay man IS equal to a heterosexual man. It’s the RELATIONSHIP between people that is not equal! A man does not love another man the SAME as a man loves a woman. The RELATIONSHIP is NOT equal. The RELATIONSHIP between gay lovers is NOT the SAME as heterosexual lovers! Marriage between a man and woman is the HUMAN norm!

Again gays have been getting married for years… even before Amendment I. Why does government need to sanction it?
hfaylor23 read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 1:22 PM

the main problem with not allowing marriage that i see is what happens when someones life partner dies? being married, when my wife dies i am the next of kin. why wouldn't you give that opportunity to someone else? if someone's life partner dies someone else gets to make the decision on where the body is buried etc. that isn't fair, no matter how you hash it. as for the love not being the same, prove it. being gay means that the feelings most men or women have for the opposite sex are the feelings said person has for the same sex. the love is the same, and expressed on all the same levels as heterosexual love.
second, there are tons of things that isn't the human norm that are tolerated in our society. you want to be tied up? good for you. like lingerie, thats fine and dandy. these things aren't the human norm, but i don't hear anyone complaining about that...
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 4, 2007 | 2:49 AM

Are you kidding me? They go to a lawyer and arrange it legally! Do you remember the Gay wedding I was telling you about 27 years ago that I attended? Well sadly and unfortunately 11 years later one of those guys died of aids. Do you know where all of his assets and belongings went to? They went to his life partner, because when the Unitarian church married them they went and made legal arrangements with a lawyer for each other to keep each others belongings. A lesbian couple, who’s wedding I attended 18 years ago, did the same and just 3 months ago one died in a car crash. The partner has everything from the poor gal who died. INCLUDING LIFE INSURANCE!

So, dare I ask again… why should government sanction gay marriage, when all of these tools are in place, NOW, to allow them a life they desire?

Your other arguments make no sense.
hfaylor23 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2007 | 12:26 PM

how do my arguments not make sense? you and logic don't see eye to eye...

none of these tools are in place, thats why they are fighting for these rights...
Caer
Oct 5, 2007 | 12:23 AM

I agree, a marriage is between a man and a woman. Even legally married man/woman does not mean that the surviving spouse gets 50% and the kids get to divide the other 50%. If my husband has a will written that everything goes to the Save the Aardvarks fund, i could take it to court but probably would lose. So if you are in a committed relationship, get a will. Many of the health insurance policies allow non-married (they do specify gender) couples to be put on the policy.
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 6, 2007 | 10:20 AM

I gave you specific examples and you disregard them, as if they didn't exist? If the tools are NOT in place, how did my friend collect the life insurance on her life partner?
It is you who put logic aside and says things are true when they are NOT! Logic is Logic no matter how it makes you FEEL.
Homosexuals have been around since the fall and will always be here until Jesus returns. Marriage is for one man and one woman, and “life partnership” is for man-man and woman-woman, and it is so here in the greatest Country of them all!
shining_wolf88 read my blog
Oct 6, 2007 | 9:32 PM

Marriage is not just between a man and a woman! I am straight and I believe that!!!

In all societies the choice of partners is generally guided by rules of exogamy (the obligation to marry outside a group); some societies also have rules of endogamy (the obligation to marry within a group). These rules may be prescriptive or, as in the case of the incest taboo, proscriptive; they generally apply to kinship groups such as clan or lineage; residential groups; and social groups such as the ethnic group, caste, or class.

There are plenty of different countries and in the U.S. states that believe marriage is not only man and woman. The only reason all this $h*# is in place is because of the current president. I will NEVER claim him as my president. I support our troops, yet when the war is supposed to be over, Bush is dipping into our children's health insurance to pay for it. Bush is not afraid that the Government can't handle the duty he wants to keep things going that have no reason to be continued, except that Bush is a Control Freak! Come on People with Kidney Disease and Leukimia are dieing because of Bush!
AlwaysaSceptic read my blog
Oct 8, 2007 | 6:29 AM

Marriage is only for one man and one woman. Show me the society that has continued on by honoring gays marrying. What? You can’t? That’s odd!

Trust me marriage is between only one man and one woman because a MAJORITY of Americans believe it to be the standard, not because of Bush. Maybe you should find a different country in which to live… I know you’d love Sweden… BUT 19% unemployment there… may be hard for you to find a job.

LASTLY!

I don’t believe you support the troops… Do you support fire fighters around where you live, and not agree with then fighting the correct fire?
shining_wolf88 read my blog
Oct 8, 2007 | 6:36 AM

That's seriously YOUR opinion b/c I support our troops as well as firefighters and other's whom risk their lives. Just because you're to darn stuck up doesn't mean you have to me with other people's beliefs. Oh and did you read what I wrote at the top of my last comment??? That IS out of a dictionary! So HA!!!
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