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What a joke. I say no. The Bible teaches the very aspect of what it means to  be Christian.

You cannot make up your own set of rules to follow.

The Ten Commandments are God's Law.

You cannot make up your own "commandments"

I love how some that claim to be Christian, will ignore God's Law, and even have the audacity to SPEAK for God!

This is why religion is laughed at, the so many that think they are holier than thou, that will actually speak for God!

These persons cannot back up thier beliefs however. They say they do not believe the Bible, but they know God. And they speak for Him!  How is that possible? Is there somewhere else we can find the Word of God? I have asked, but have gotten no reply to the question.

I say you cannot be a real Christian unless you believe our Lord Christ came into this world as the Son of God and made His presence known according to the teachings of the Bible. How else could anyone know Jesus/God?

How can you say you are Christian if you don't believe the Bible? 

Where did you get your information about Christ from? And why do you believe it more than the Bible? This is a question that cannot be answered with any sort of intelligence.

Believe me. I have asked it, and was accused of being evil!

So I ask you all. Can you be Christian and not believe the Bible? If so, how? Why?

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Gorilla read my blog
Nov 11, 2008 | 2:40 AM

I believe:
Christ was God's son.
The Holy spirit is unarmed truth and resides in everyone.
I have a faith in wisdom, and wisdom comes from more places than just the bible.
What ever you find out, GOD already knows.
I am saved by Christ through his gift of grace.
The only interpretation of the book is your own. The message is universal.
That there is only one judgment.
in Don't Hate, appreciate.
In treating others as you wish to be treated.
The golden rule is for all of gods children.


I am blessed and work directly with GOD on a daily basis. Blessing people IS my business.
Pretty sure it makes me a Christian if I want to be, but I would never tell someone they weren't, condemning, it's blasphemous...^ -^

didaskalos read my blog
Nov 11, 2008 | 3:45 PM

If I say that you are not a tree, would that be blasphemous? What if I say that you are not an alien, not a Voodoo priest, not a Mongolian, not an astro-physicst, not a Roman Catholic, not a whatever??? How is that blasphemous?

Frank, no belief in the Bible = no basis for biblical beliefs, the foundation for faith in Christ... that is my oversimplified answer :)

Gorilla read my blog
Nov 11, 2008 | 4:21 PM

Sola Scriptura I understand...
Having a faith in the message goes beyond the word. Beyond religion, it is spiritual.

Biblical belief has a wide range of interpretation, none of which is wrong, it is written figuratively. On purpose.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Nov 11, 2008 | 7:25 PM

Well, many love to toss the word "blasphemy" around for many different purposes. What does the Bible say about blasphemy?

In John 10:32,33, it tells how the Jews were going to stone Jesus. He asked them why they were about to stone Him and they said, "For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

Blasphemy is for a man to speak for God!

I would NEVER presume to speak for God other than quoting scripture.

I have found no other definition of "blasphemy" in the Bible.

It is not a catch all word, and is clearly defined in John 10:33.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Nov 11, 2008 | 7:30 PM

Thanx didas, that is my belief also.

Quite simple, isn't it?

didaskalos read my blog
Nov 11, 2008 | 9:48 PM

Gorilla, if scripture can mean ANYTHING, it means NOTHING.

Parts that are written in a figurative genre are open to interpretation unless the passage also presents the interpretation. Parts written in a historical genre are not to be interpreted figuratively.

Gorilla read my blog
Nov 12, 2008 | 7:04 AM

To you D the message is lost, but to others without constant immersion in church it can still be profound. The same reason for multiple denominations and multiple interpretations.

It is the O.G. authority, I get it, but I think there is more to it. Much more to life
imo.

Please explain the regula fidei.
The context you speak of is only another perspective/interpretation with a congruent following. What makes it any different than another?

Lisawfamily read my blog
Nov 12, 2008 | 7:27 AM

wow...this discussion is over my head..
I think the longevity of the Holy Bible, the scientific proof of its records, and sheer fact that is the best selling book out there..should mean something..it outlast all others because of where the word came from!! The bible was given as a gift...and yet..so many have no clue what it says.. it is a Love story! The Story of God's love for his people. And that includes those people I find hard to love...
If I was on a deserted island, but I believed in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and accepted Him as my savior...I believe God himself would find a way to show me His word..by the Holy Spirit, much like he did in the earliest of christianity....

jcadla read my blog view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 8:38 AM

"Can you be Christian and not believe the Bible? If so, how? Why?"

No you cannot be a Christian and not believe the Bible. The word,"Christian," means 'follower of Jesus Christ' or 'the teaching of the Christ.'
Unless there is another historical account of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ that might be followed, you must take the Bible as the account of the life of Jesus.
Christians were ordained by the shedding of blood of the 'Lamb',(the innocent) i.e.,Jesus nailed to the cross and shedding blood allowed gentiles to receive the blessings of the God of Abraham without being circumsized or making blood sacrifices.

didaskalos read my blog
Nov 12, 2008 | 10:13 AM

Gorilla - indeed, the non-allagorical hermeneutical approach in which the text is taken literally unless there is compelling literary evidence to merit a figrative meaning is just another approach. What makes is differnt is that it is the standard academic approach used for the evaluation of ANY ancient document. This approach focuses on the internal, exteral and bibliographic evidence as the basis for evaluating the text. In so doing, there is greater attempt of objectivity rather than defaulting to the subjectvity of allogorical presuppositions. So if "no interpertation is wrong" as you say, then every interpretation is right an the Book is effectively worthless. That does not mean the MY interpretation is ALWAYS right ... just that anything and everything is NOT right. Make sense? As you seem to be a kind person, I think that you would agree that interpretations that attempt justify great harm to others and contradict the goodness and wisdom of God would not be correct interpretations.

jcadla read my blog view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 10:28 AM

didaskalos

Huh?

ROGER459 read my blog view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 2:09 PM

Dear DF,

NO, One Cannot Be A Christian, and NOT Beleive the Bible! Here are some of the MANY Verses that say so!

(James 1:22) Keep on being doers of the word, and not merely hearers who deceive themselves.

(1Corinthians 2:13-14) These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(1Cor 2:14) But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

(John 12:48-49) He who rejects Me and does not receive My Words has one who judges him; the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
(John 12:49) For I have not spoken of Myself, but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Matthew 4:4
Luke 4:4
Luke 6:46
John 15:3

Thanks for Asking! Roger459.

I-RIGHT-I view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 2:36 PM

"Can you be Christian and not believe the Bible?"

Can the majority of the mainline Protestant denominations be wrong???

ROGER459 read my blog view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 2:47 PM

Dear "I"

Since when does GOD... need A Majority Human Opinion???

"NEVER!" .... It is Written....!

(Isaiah 55:6-to-11) Seek Jehovah GOD while He may be found; call on Him while He is near.

(Isa 55:7) Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to Jehovah GOD, and He will have mercy on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.

(Isa 55:8) For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor your ways My ways, says Jehovah.

(Isa 55:9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

(Isa 55:10) For as the rain comes down, and the snow from the heavens, and does not return there, but waters the earth, and makes it bring out and bud, and give seed to the sower and bread to the eater;

(Isa 55:11) so shall My Word be, which goes out of My mouth; it shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall certainly do what I sent it to do.

Thanks, Roger459.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Nov 12, 2008 | 5:12 PM

Thanx jcadla, and that is true. In the Old Testament sacrificing animals was a daily duty. It is a tough read, because page after page only describes the many animals that were sacrificed.

When Jesus was sacrificed for the sins of man, sacrificing animals was no longer required.
He was the ultimate sacrifice!

Jesus was the last "lamb" to be sacrificed!

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