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MissNancy,
I agree. Even I thought that Socialism and Communism sounded like great ideas when I studied them in college... then reality sank in.
I thought it was telling when I asked oel for current or past examples where Socialism exists in the form he describes, all he could come up with was the Paris Commune; over 137 years ago. With over 300 countries existing today, he had to go back 137 years to find a suitor. Obviously, this begs the question, if oel's Socialism blueprint is so good why do we have to go back 137 years to see an example? And, here's the funny part, the Paris Commune lasted less than a year; 2.5 months to be more accurate.

Searching,
You should teach. That post had such a sound of poetry to it:-)

The Hippies tried communes back in the 60s and 70s and they weren't very successful either. A combination of not knowing much about agriculture and the all too common lazy folks who didn't participate very well.

OEL just doesn't get the "human nature" part of the equation.

The truth about socialism is that a man who pays a fortune for a good education will earn the same a s the drop out who works at a government owned station. Socialism is where no one person owns property but everyone is suppose to. Now which countries have ever done that and where are they? Where are the happy ever afters? Socialism would have to be strictly run, who would run it? Not the people because most people do not agree on most things. And if you do not own nor will ever own then why bother to progress? You will only be where you are today tomorrow and next year. A worker with nothing to show for your work but a few dollars. Why creat a Disney World if it will not be yours and all you have to show for it is what the guy washing car windows gets.

This country has worked and worked well for over 200 years. There is so much opportunity here for anyone with the drive, perseverance and skill to make it in any field. You won't find that anywhere else on earth and certainly not in the kind of country you would promote.

If you want to concentrate on the have-nots, then ask them why they have not. Why haven't they taken advantage of the Pell Grant and other opportunities for education? Why not go to trade school and learn a trade or skill? Why not work your way up from the bottom by showing yourself to be a dedicated and willing worker?

Why are there have-nots in America? Unless their situation is due to injury or illness, there is a myriad of opportunity to bring themselves up instead of insisting that everyone else be brought down.

"...[the Soviet Union] was a government that does not feet neatly into a poli-sci box."
Then why do you claim it was communist when it does not fit into that box? Your reason is lacking here.

"A ruling committee, headed by a dictator/premier governed the country. There was no middle class, there were only the ruling class and the workers....period."
Oh, like a corporate hierarchy. I guess it resembled capitalism more than you thought. The committee (board of executives) and premier (CEO, chairman) can be considered the ruling class, while the workers slave for them (a slave is indeed someone who has sold themselves or been sold into labor). Or would you prefer the term "industrial prostitutes?"

OEL, do you remember Bill Clinton? Are you aware it was Clinton that signed both treaties that sent jobs flying out of this country and sent them to India, the Phillipines, Mexico and other countries? Do you remember why he did it? He did it to "share the wealth" with the rest of the world and to "even the playing field" for poorer countries.

Well, it worked for them and has nearly wrecked us. All those jobs flying out the window were pushed out by the socialist, Bill Clinton.

There is still tremendous opportunity in this country for hands on jobs like teaching, engineering, auto mechanics, auto body work, health care, and yes, welding. There is still tremendous opportunity for those willing to go out and grab it.

Example: My older brother was retired from the Navy as an officer and was also as a prison warden. He still wanted to work but no one would hire him at 62 even with his tremendous history and skills. The only job he could get was one of delivering Auto Trader magazines. He took the job and, within 1 year he was working 6 days a week and had the largest route in the southeast.

He took a nothing job and made it into the most profitable route in the country. That is taking advantage of opportunity and making something out of it rather than whining about this country being "just downright mean". Or, insisting we need a government and social structure that gives the "I can'ts" half of that earned by the "I cans"

The difference is, OEL, my statements are true and my brother actually did do what I said he did.

I have to laugh at your continued charge of my ignorance. Bill Clinton himself stated one of his most respected mentors was Dr. Carroll Quigley, a proponent of socialism. Also, one who helped form his economic strategy is Derek Shearer, longtime associate fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies,which is committed to socialism in America.

Please write Bill and his mentors and tell them how ignorant they are to consider themselves socialists.

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..."
Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)