XNoctemNacimur's Blog

So your point is... Edwards is the man for president and has the cure for health care? Only he has no chance because the Republicans want to beat Clinton?

OR

The Republicans control everything so Edwards and Clinton have no chance?

OR

The Republicans control everything so there is no chance for health care reform at all?

Wait! What is your point?

Then once you got past the attitude, you could formulate an argument based in ALL the facts available instead of the ones being spoon fed to you, or the few you pic that feed your socialist agenda.

I get a kick out of the young ones that think they have some novel approach or vision..... eventually they enter into the world where the rest of us deal in reality, and about a decade later, are shocked at what they used to think...

Either that or they simply continue to live in a "Boulder haze" and grow old with the same ponytail they had at Woodstock....

Abundai, yes i am young but you have yet to refute my points. so come on if i've missed something bring me "all the facts available".

i'm saying there is alot of special interst that manipulates all aspects of politics. a progressive democrat who would do things like work for energy independence would not be liked by a specific industry, or one who advocates for peace would not be liked by another, or one who advocates for national healthcare would not be liked by another. but the oil, defence and healthcare industries have lots of money to throw at an election. now as far that concernes conservatives they are generally in bed with big oil, defence and most big corporate special interest, if for nothing else because they don't believe in the sherman anti-trust act and generally believe in "neo-liberalism" or laissez faire capitalism.

edwards healthcare plan and his refusal of lobbiest money is the exact reason the "powers that be" (read big corporate powers) run against him.

i got ya', no need to actually debate the issue, no point necessary, just discredit everything i say by chalking it up to lack of experience.

no matter how old you are, you lack a point till you can come back and have a somewhat pointed rebuttal, as far as I'm concerned you have lost the conversation, debate whatever you want to call it, just remember, the future is mine. you can reach out to me, engage me or write me off, the choice is yours.


also civility went out the window with this forum, when i was called a domestic insurgent. I'm not your typical pacifist hippie liberal, i know when I've been threatened and growing up in the punk and skinhead scene i know how to take a hit if not deal them.

the funny thing in all this is i was a part of the eyoung republicans at my school and as i look back i can't help but laugh at how dumb my ideals used to be...

Well X

I would hope that you could see all you are promoting here is more corruption. Think hard about it before you start the cry-baby rants dude, your discrediting yourself and anyone with a smidge of common-sense can see it.

For a lesson in government run health care, please research Walter Reid Medical Center, and don't forget to read some of the dispariging stories about the center written by the NYTimes, Newsweek and on and on. Walter Reid is Government run health care and at this point is the only model we have.

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The common working class understands that special intrests are not helping the common citizen. If you people could express a thought without attacking others you wouldn't be referred to as a domestic insurgent. But you haven't, and then you lay accountability for it at other peoples door step.

And am I the only one who is wondering if this conversation is about winning or loosing. Doesn't that make it a left vs. RIGHT issue? Or are you trying to bait people again? You can't have it both ways, the only thing you have accomplished in all of your blogs is to generalize the citizens on this Nation. Focus on a topic for gods sake, one topic without attaching 100 generalized thought processes that exist in your head. Your all over the place and until you can slow down a bit your going to get nowhere.
I can't help but wonder as a mechanic if you work the same way as you think, tell us where that's at so we can save ourselves some frustration and not go there. In reality, I would prefer someone who tackles the problem instead of avoiding it. I need

well, i service fleet, so unless you drive one of our trucks, don't worry about it. given the company is my customer, if i did shoddy work I'd be jobless. also a car like politics is SYSTEMIC one problem can cause another and sometimes what seems to be a problem is only a symptom, for example your tires wear irregularly, you can replace the tires once a year, or you can get an alignment and service the linkage thus fix the PROBLEM and make one set of tires last 3 years.

failure at walter reed, failure of social security, failure of public schools are all symptoms of one problem that is irrational fear in conservative leadership. the lack of money and proper oversight for all these programs. its all because regan and everyone since believed they needed to lower taxes, they had an irrational fear of "socialism", they feared these programs, cut the funding. walter reed is the incarnation of regan's 9 scariest words and the mentality that follows.

bottom line is you get what you pay for. you want our VA hospitals to give the care a veteran deserves? PAY FOR IT quit bitching about taxes.