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What's up with this? Where I come from, up north, you are asked if it is okay for a student or learning physician or nurse to be present during your care. Here in Florida this isn't the case. How outrageous! I realize that people have to learn somewhere but not on me or my family, we are not guinea pigs. I have a huge problem with this. If one of my children or myself require medical attention I want to be seen by a seasoned professional and not some kid either still in school or fresh out of school who uses a book to create a diagnosis because they have NO real experience or practical knowledge other than what they learned in school. Every one knows that what you learn in most college courses is very different from what real life has to offer and if these people really want to learn something than they need to listen to the patient and not just the written text in a book. And ask if the patient minds being your guinea pig before you practice learning on them.
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80sMetalHead read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 8:47 AM

I'm pretty sure they do that here, too. When my son was born 2 years ago via c-sect, the doc took out the stitches before I went home and he asked me if it was ok for so and so medical student to be present.

80sMetalHead read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 8:48 AM

P.S. How are the babies?! :)

Gammies61 read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 9:17 AM

I'm surprised they didn't ask your permission. I don't mind being a guinea pig. Everybody has to learn somehow. Of course, I'm weird, cause I love being a patient. It's like a vacation. Every one is nice, they bring you food in bed, you can watch TV, play cards, or just relax. I guess the next time I go, it will probably be something major, because, I can't have any more babies.

Take care cat.

catspajamas read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 9:27 AM

The babies are doing okay 80's, thanks for asking. =0)

If you go to winnie palmer or arnold palmer hospitals or any of the ORMC hospitals they do not ask, they just send in what ever student is there and when you request to see the attending physician you get no where but the same student or resident that has already been sent. It's pretty stupid. I can't tell you how many times I have complained about this but it never changes. The last one I was sent was for my newborn daughter and was under the impression that I am uneducated and have no idea as to what was wrong that brought us there in the first place. In fact the stupid girl wrote the wrong information down as to the reason for our ambulance trip to arnold palmer. Believe me, she got a piece of my mind.

Mater01 read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 8:24 PM

Well Gee! I always thought they had to ask you first! I guess they will tape everything without your knowledge to as you were in labor. So CAT, are you a star at the hospital? Did you get the red carpet when you left with the kitties?

I know about information being written down wrong and entered into the computer and chart files. Been there, done that. In fact if I wouldn't have asked questions I would have never known a far off their records were!

BrendaG read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 11:02 PM

My father's life was saved at a teaching hospital Cat. He went to Shand's where the sugical instructor performed his operation. The students were involved in the after care, and I am sure they were present for the operation, but the students only followed the doctor's footsteps, they did not make any decisions. We chose Shands because of the excellence of the Doctor that was teaching there. Don't be so quick to condemn, especially when it comes to a disease such as cancer. The teaching hospitals are on top of what is considered "new technology" when fighting such a disease. I know for a fact that had dad chose his other option and had gone to Moffit in Tampa he wouldn't have come home. The local Doctor's here wouldn't have been successful either. We are very thankful that he chose to have his surgery in a teaching hospital. Less then 5% of the people diagnosed with what he had live an additional five years. We are now almost three years post surgery and cancer free. =)

Heidi_Hatch read my blog view my photos
Oct 16, 2007 | 4:39 AM

I completely understand that students and young doctors have to learn somewhere... but it's nice to have an option.

I was in a teaching hospital when my now two year old was born almost 3 months early. I was very sick and he was very sick. Having multiple students working on me doing the same thing over and over added to the stress of an already tough situation. I would have preferred the option to say - yes they can watch and listen and learn -but can I be violated by just one doctor each time? I wasn't a fan of each student getting a turn to ask questions- make their own diagnosis and do their daily check ups.

With all that said. The team of doctors and interns saved my life and my babies life. If I was at another hospital- a non teaching hospital the expertise would not have been there.

The end to my story could have been far different. In the end.... the teaching hospital was a good thing. Hindsight is always 20/20.

catspajamas read my blog view my photos
Oct 16, 2007 | 9:56 AM

Brenda, I'm glad to hear your father is doing well and is cancer free. I think that is awesome.

Heidi, I know how you felt being poked and prodded by several students and it is very stressful. I'm glad you and your baby made it.

I was supposed to have the twins at Winnie palmer, but when I was informed that I would have a half a dozen students around my lap while the attending stood back and was there just in case I said NO WAY. I opted to drive @ an hour from home to Celebration hospital to have the twins. The doctor who delivered them was great and had delivered my toddler almost 2 years ago. I wanted to have them natural but this wonderful doctor, after doing some tests and examining me thoroughly, told me that it would be in the best interest of my son to have a c-section. I certainly didn't want the c-section but I went with his recommendation and am grateful that I did. Because of this wonderful doctor my son made it and would not have otherwise. I didn't have to deal with any students or extra headaches and I believe I received a much higher standard of care than I would have at the teaching hospital. No, I know I did. I would much rather be seen by a seasoned professional than a student any day and in a quality facility such as Celebration.
My experience with the student hospitals and other facilities has been far from good. I even had one student doctor prescribe a medication with a warning that the medicine causes birth defects. I didn't take the stuff and the next time I saw her I asked about it and was told by this student to ignore the warnings because

catspajamas read my blog view my photos
Oct 16, 2007 | 10:00 AM

I didn't take the stuff and the next time I saw her I asked about it and was told by this student to ignore the warnings because the warnings on prescription medications are all "generic". Needless to say I never went back to that facility again but I did see this butcher again during one of my prenatal visits with the twins. I mad a complaint about her and was told that there were several complaints about her already. So why is she still there?

Heidi_Hatch read my blog view my photos
Oct 17, 2007 | 1:34 AM

catspjs- so scary. And you're right. We are always our own best advocates. Just because a doctor or intern says one thing doesn't mean you can't say no or check out your options!

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