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The reason for "cut and paste?" I could not have covered/written this news as accurately and punctuational, as it was presented here by Reuters. One by one, as I predicted, Bush is losing his own. Republicans reignite Iraq war debate

 

By Susan Cornwell

Reuters
Tuesday, June 26, 2007; 5:09 PM

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's Iraq war policy suffered a second blow in as many days on Tuesday when another senior senator from his Republican party publicly called for U.S. troop withdrawals.

A day after Indiana Republican Sen. Richard Lugar declared that Bush's "surge" policy of adding troops was not working, Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio sent Bush a letter "expressing his belief that our nation must begin to develop a comprehensive plan for our gradual military disengagement from Iraq," Voinovich's office announced.


 

Lugar is the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee and Voinovich is a member of that panel. The Ohioan made his move even as Democrats were hailing Lugar for publicly criticizing the Iraq war, saying Lugar had reignited what had seemed a stalled debate.

In a Senate floor speech on Monday night, Lugar said the United States should draw down its troops in Iraq and redeploy some of them in the region before it is too late to do so politically -- before the U.S. 2008 presidential campaign gets into full swing and partisan confrontation limits options.

U.S. policy was limiting America's diplomatic effectiveness around the world and straining the U.S. military, Lugar said. "The costs and risks of continuing down the current path outweigh the potential benefits that might be achieved."

Although Democrats believe they were catapulted to power in Congress by voters who wanted to end the war, they have been unable to translate that mandate into legislation bringing about an end to the conflict, largely because not enough Republicans have joined them in the narrowly-divided Senate,

"I believe that Senator Lugar's words yesterday could be remembered as the turning point in this intractable civil war in Iraq," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat who voted to authorize the Iraq war in 2002 but soured on the conflict.

"But that will depend on whether more Republicans take the stand that Senator Lugar took, the courageous stand," Reid said.

Lugar told reporters on Tuesday he was not as not looking for a showdown with the White House, but a bipartisan consensus on getting the United States to reduce its presence in Iraq, where America now has 157,000 troops.

"I'm going to find out who else agrees with me, how I can work with other senators, how I can work with the president," Lugar, who chaired the Foreign Relations Committee until Democrats took power in January, said outside the Senate.

Since delivering the speech, the White House had telephoned him and he will be meeting administration officials "soon," Lugar said. Other Republican senators had been "generally supportive" of his remarks, he added.

The White House tried to play down Lugar's speech, saying he had been a thoughtful critic of the war for some time. Lugar told reporters it was true he had made many of his criticisms privately to Bush as far back as January -- but not publicly.

Even Lugar's fellow Republicans said his move had recharged the Iraq debate. One, Virginia Sen. John Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, suggested a tipping point in Congress could come as soon as next month, when a defense policy bill comes to the Senate floor -- instead of holding until September, when Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus is due to report.

But one Republican supporter of the war, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, was unmoved by Lugar's public change in stance. "As much as I respect Senator Lugar, I think it's unfair to the troops in the field to say that the surge is not working," he said.

The Senate Armed Services Committee voted on Tuesday to approve Bush's nomination of a "war czar" for Iraq and Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, and confirmed Preston Geren as Army secretary.

(additional reporting by Thomas Ferraro and Richard Cowan)

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Ridehog read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 10:27 AM

Lets be real the only reason you cut/paste is because you are unable to form your own opinion moron.

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 12:06 PM

Not only that, but the pitch size just gets larger and larger!!

Can you imagine what would have happened if someone had behaved like this when Roosevelt was in the middle of WWII?

I have no problem with any of these old dogs and their complaints. Before I retired, I watched them all working the ropes and playing games with the Defense Dept. I say let them go then! FBI,CIA,DIA, DoD, etc. all have some "careerist" that need to vanish!

Take the 12/12/5/20 Affirmative Action program and all the Socialization experiments you brought with you too!! Lets bring back the warriors, and have a military that is developed for their ability NOT their sex, race, religion, etc.

With respect to all serving, they are working with a system that does not put winning ahead of diversity!! Imagine a sports team forced to hire players based on diversity instead of ability!!

slgps read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 1:09 PM

Connot, who was you a good president in our opinion? Prove all in the Conservative machine wrong. Let the "pack" know that you can think for yourself. If you can identify bad, you must be able to identify good.

cicero read my blog
Jun 28, 2007 | 1:53 PM

nobody is perfect you cannot please everyone but the presidents the first 20 or so were probably the best and paved our way to this county and then it went down from there

connot read my blog
Jun 28, 2007 | 1:54 PM

Not one Conservative can keep from game playing and concede to the fact that President Bush is losing Republican support. I was watching Bush live on our great FOX news station this am and he, obviously was reading from a poorly written, pre-drafted speech that had no chance in hell than but to bury him deeper and Bush was'a stuttering and mispronouncing every other thought or conveyance and definitely looked extremely fake in his try to convince who ever will listen, that he's going in the right direction. Yea, right. Had to pity the, poor fellow. At times, he was sweating profusely and I could see he is finally realizing he's in his own, downward tail-spin especially after two major Repubs stand up against him. He should have canceled his speech as stress is one part of his job he fumbles. Maybe he needs a drink? And you wonder why I paste info from the past? Well, a good investigator leaves no room for doubt. Screw-ups that Bush committed 2-- 3-- years ago are just coming to realization by the majority. Yes, my little rat-pack, his Administration is sinking like a lead balloon. Connot at least one of you stand up against this article instead of spouting out of your blow-holes' off topic remarks like "who I think was a good president?" The coward's way out as usual; Go off topic for diversion from truthful realities.

slgps read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:07 PM

Thank you connot for semi-acknowledging my question. I never said I was conservative, Repulican or a Bush fan. Does everyone that disagrees with you one or all of the above? What are ou looking for? Bush sucks, sorry I vored for him, please forgive me? I asked a question in a place where you were sure to see it...your blog. But, if you do not want to answer the question, then don't. You are using the tactics that you accuse "the pack" of using.

connot read my blog
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:08 PM

You are right, cicero.

slgps read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:10 PM

And they are rolling around in their graves now.

connot read my blog
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:13 PM

sogps-- Out of you, some respect of sticking to topic. I need not go off subject to prove a thing to you or any other. And you seem agree with the best of the Cons.

slgps read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:40 PM

Ok, fine so you don't know the answer. The best of the Cons? I would have said wanker Ridehog.

slgps read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 2:51 PM

Sorry, a moment of insanity. It won't happen again.

Flippy read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2007 | 11:44 PM

You are the poster boy for liberalism. How pathetic you really are.
Connot. Willnot. Dreamnot.

Ridehog read my blog view my photos
Jun 29, 2007 | 9:11 AM

He's to busy being the poster boy for cut/paste he's next gig is poster boy for I hate God and America and women and everybody else.

Caer
Jun 29, 2007 | 4:54 PM

There were a lot of losers in the first 20 presidents...Harrison, Polk, Tyler and the like. My personal best is TR. But then I really don't like reading bold type. I really hate it when people scream at me, even if it is in print. If you can't make your point with some sort of civility then go to a low class bar and scream at them, I'm sure you would get the proper reaction.

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