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Listening to the debate from both sides on the Sunday licquor stores being able to open and the bitty ounces of marijuana, I am steamed.  Honor the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.

Perhaps we should have a debate on what is holy.

The poor Mike Twirt  just cannot understand why arrests are still being made for the possession of marijuana!,  So, as the green card - medical marijuana business with the gov. stepping into growers of over 100 plants to bring them to trial, etc.  Marijuana growing is a business, just like any other..He says, ' The state police are still making arrests.'

 He understands the state and governemental laws haven't made marijuana use legal..?  "We are getting so much controversy, he just cannot understand it? "  For those of us who don't smoke, we understand.  Legal cigaret smoking is at a high level of DON'Ts. So someone passes, by the way, its okaye to have a bitty amount on ya...what about the second hand effects, to the household environment, children, for those of you who have children...impaired drivers..Smokin pot gives you the false sense of alertness, you think you have, but  ah  ha  ...really you don't...trips up your sensory systems, causes asthma, chronic health problems...you haven't been diagnosed with yet...wait another decade.

Do you really think gettin high on pot is safer than gettin off the tea kettle and into alcohol abuse? No. It is not. You cannot tell me these users do anymore than a drug addict to smoke to relax, doze off, or to have a good time.. Who got shot in Denver?  Is that one solved yet... Marijuana use is addictive, same as caffiene,  or alcohol, if used in too large of amounts. He would argue the bitty ounce is legal...well, where does the stuff come from- in larger amounts, cann't be growin miniature plants to sell miniature doses..  can  we????  .JUST CARRY smaller amount so you don't get busted...WHAT is he thinkin! What is Denver thinking?

Individual tolerance should come into play here. Each of us has their own tolerance for 'medical' marijuana usage....plants running at a $5,000.00 investment. The same is for individual tolerance/taste for licquor:  beer, tecquila, Jack Daniels, Gin, rum,  you name it. The person who cannot drink a glass of wine after dinner and call it quits may need to admit that, by the way, perhaps, I am consuming too much! And, by the way,  the more I consume,the  more I need, and when I don't have it, do I get the shakes??? perhaps, the nastier I may get to go do somethin really crazy - like have a wreak, or not recall where you been or with whom?  Its a steppin stone to the really hard stuff...any fifth grade student can tell you that from the NO DRUG  classes in schools.

Tell me its a good thing to sell licquor on Sunday and smoke a bit of pot, and I will tell you why the world is goin astray.

Mothers againt drunk drivers have their own sad tales. Women of drunken alcoholic husbands have their sad tales of domestic abuse when the occasional beer turns into a weekend binge...blackouts and beatings!  [which they may say they don't recall]  Wake up...Pot is not safer, To me, it is even more stupid. It makes you do stupid things.. It takes our liver half hour to digest the booze.The world is full of autistic and children with Attention Deficit Disorder, learning disabilities. How many studies are made of the parents to say: " Who Did the drugs?"  my father, my grandmother???

      Did you ever see someone with brain damage from alcohol ? Loss of bodily organ function is a sign of the abuse. Kidney failure and heart attacks are no fun....to you young ones who cannot foresee old-age creepin in.  No one can imagine the sad tales of nurses who have taken care of  people goin thru d.t.'s  [delirium tremors] the shakes, etc.!   DId you ever see someone try to jump out a two story window cause the spiders and snakes were after them?  I have.  D.T.'s  or alcohol withdrawal will bring it on.  Sober up people and get a reality cheak. the pushers are the ones who lookin for the profits, not the users.  AND  YOU  if you are using are going to be the ones who die too young!

If a person is driving and smokin their pot, you cannot tell me their judgements not impaired!    Where is the studies on this one?  Confess up!  How many accidents and deaths will it take to quit? Sometimes, only when  'the train wreak'  happens in your family, or to your friends, do you stop.

Denver has made its own bed. When some should be bowing their head in shame, not nodding off from gettin high. Did you ever see sleep apnea? Ask that person if they done a lotta pot?

 NO licquor should be sold on Sunday. Customer satisfaction to keep people healthy.

 Honor the sabbath day to keep it holy... TO KEEP IT HOLY. 

The excuse is that:  "You see two working people need the sunday to shop and rest." Really, is that a logical excuse?  Most of us have eight hour jobs, plenty of time to go to the store  six days a week,  you think?  So,  really what is this world coming too?

I believe marijuana is just a steppping stone to the hard ones: Crack, Coke, Speed, and Heroin.  I bet there are others who say the same...esp those in the medical field! 

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Fishermike read my blog
Mar 10, 2008 | 2:43 PM

I agree with most of what you stated. "Honor the sabbath day to keep it holy... TO KEEP IT HOLY." That is a touchy subject when dealing with a political issue on Christian ground. First of all, on a political outlook, one cannot mix politics and religion when argueing an issue. One cannot say that another should not do something on a "Holy Day" to get a law passed, just as a law cannot be passed that will infringe on anothers right to free worship. Now the issue of the Sabbath. Which day is actually the Biblical Sabbath day of rest? In the Bible, God said to "rest on the 7th day" which even in on the oldest of calenders is Saturday. Constantine made up the first set of "Blue Laws" accommodate his belief and changed the original Sabbath to Sunday. So one has to ask..Do you follow God's Sabbath or Constantine's?

Fishermike read my blog
Mar 10, 2008 | 2:46 PM

Another thing...No matter which "Sabbath" you observe..Do you follow it to the letter the same as 7Th Day Adventist's or Orthodox Jew's? Which is a REAL day of rest. Or is it a day off to go out and play games instead of showing worship to God?

WKD-RDR
Mar 10, 2008 | 5:15 PM

Just because Sunday is a Holy Day for some, doesn't mean we should not sell liquor on Sundays. If it's YOUR holy day, dont drink (or play games, I guess). If this is your only argument against Sunday liquor sales, that is very selfish.

Arrests made for possesion of marijuana is against the will of the Denver voters, my friend. And yes, it IS safer than drinking. How many domestic violence cases involve only MJ? How many people do you see in the hospital going through MJ withdrawl? I work in medicine and I know there is value in medical MJ. (Please, challenge me).

And believe it or not, just like some people can have a glass or 2 of wine and call it quits... some people know how to use MJ safely, in thier own homes, not bothering anyone. Not everyone who smokes is a 'pothead', same as not everyone who drinks is an 'alcoholic'.
MJ is no more of a gateway drug than alcohol.

Fishermike read my blog
Mar 10, 2008 | 5:53 PM

WKD-RDR ... Very Well put..

dizzee read my blog view my photos
Mar 11, 2008 | 8:25 AM

MJ causes delayed reaction which is NOT safe if you're in an emergency situation like at home with your kids or while driving. We don't need to "fold like a cheap chair" and give in. We need another solution.

Boots1
Mar 11, 2008 | 2:53 PM

It isn't safe to be driving in a blackout. Hard to react to an emergency while passed out on the floor. Alcohol is the real culprit.

Zalyndiah
Mar 11, 2008 | 9:25 PM

If you really want to honor the Sabbath day look at your calendar. The seventh day on the Calendar happens to be a Saturday, not Sunday. No where in the Bible does it say that Sunday was and or is the Sabbath day. If it does please give me the verse and i will gladly read it. AND now i get to buy my liquor even on a Sunday. YES!!! Drink and be merry. PROST! CHEERS!!!

mlr3995
Mar 13, 2008 | 7:53 AM

pot is safer than drinking to a certain extent - it is a gateway drug but alcohol abuse kills - yourself and or others. in all phases of life if used in moderation or on occasion its ok - leave 1 day though that the drunks have to sober up.

Mr_Tittles read my blog
Mar 13, 2008 | 7:58 AM

Gee whiz.

Think about the people who work in hospitals and provide care for others on Saturday and Sundays. They are just days of the week to them. People work 7 days a week genius.

Whatever religion you practice is your business, but no law should be created to enforce religion or religious beliefs, and the Sunday Blue law is just that.

Caer
Mar 13, 2008 | 9:38 PM

Having been in an abusive relationship that involved marijuana only it is hard for me to take the "marijuana makes people happy and no one gets hurt" "it is non-addictive" routine. All drugs including alcohol affect people differntly. I have also seen many people pass out from marijauna, oh excuse me thay just fell asleep. I really don't think there should be blue laws and I think that if you want to observe the Sabbath then do it, but don't expect everyone to.

jerk read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 3:53 PM

you know what if you believe marijuana is bad for you that is fine. It is not a gateway drug
although people who smoke crack and meth smoke pot. that doesn`t mean it`s a gateway drug. have you ever heard of someone overdosing on weed. NO!! the brain and body function on marijuana like componds called cannibanoids and if you don`t believe me ask your doctor or look it up in a medical dictionary. If you really want to honor the sabath and keep it holy smoke a joint does it not say in the bible that god gave us all the seed bearing herbs to use. what is weed. Maybe they shot give out bong hits in church and not wine. alcohol kills more people each year than any amount of pot. the war on drugs the national drug council is a crock a way for the government to spend your money. weed is not a drug, your vicodin your oxycontin those are drugs. that stuff is man made heroin think about the next time you have to pop those pills you are a junkie addicted to man made heroin, you know what else is man made meth.
who are the real addicts in this country the people taking the drugs or the people making the drugs. I`ll say the people making the drugs , they are addicted to money pot doesn`t hurt people, the only reason it is illegal is because this screwy government cannot tax it. they don`t care about you. hillary, obama the could care less about the people they want that money and that is it.

spcasm read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 9:53 PM

CAER: yes, the withdrawal from NOT havin it likely was the culprit of the 'abuse' some people just cannot control anger...whatever of the two...experience with an ex H addict gave me lottsa personal beatings on the weekend, when he 'freaked' and 'I' became this other person from ___another state whom he called me by her name...well, yeah...not hilarious...
Mr. T; for those who work 7 days..congrats that gives you six to buy...and one day off
Zaly: Perhaps you are right re: Saturday is the holy day for some and we do live in a country free to choose.
jerk: i know all about the 'herbs' esp. with our new green thing, natural foods, etc. and the Native Americans got the greatest legal thing with weed, as you call it, cause it was /is used for their vision quests as well as with peyeote...in their choice of religous rites so when kids use this for a 'fun' drug, or for laughs, thats not what was intended..

as with all drugs each personal tolerances increase a need for a 'more - high - high' so that is my opinion!
Gee whiz, didn't know I stepped on so many toes...you folks in Denver voted 4 the pot thing Have they grown a miny-pot plant to take care of the miny-legal amounts?
...now when or if tragedy knocks at your door, blame it on the alcoholic, not on your intense 'high' leaveing one day 4 drunks to sober up is cute, but not good 4 the licquor store business, I agree.
Each of us has our personal tolerances for either, pot or booze, so Denver is the mover and shakker on this one........kinda like prohibition was in the 20's
Be safe Ther

spcasm read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 10:00 PM

The Ten Commandments were the simplest ten laws put out - Honor the Sabbathe Day to keep it holy.. Whether or not your sabbathe is set aside for shopping or rest, in the U.S. is your choice. . . the debate between boozers and smokers, pot smokers, or cigar smokers, or crack and meth smokers, is a complicated one....then we wonder why we gotta such a messed up world here. my opinion remem.
and you won't have to sing songs like:
'remember me'....when you loose someone.

Debate
Mar 21, 2008 | 4:17 PM

Liquor is up to the person consuming on Monday or Sunday as for Marijuana no comparison to Alcohol and a smoker will smoke on Sunday too. The fact is I see the smokers do not get it legalized soon booze will be illegal. Pass the laws!!

spcasm read my blog view my photos
Mar 22, 2008 | 9:44 PM

what a fun debate! Happy Easter, hope you remember who the celebration is about, to those of you who may celebrate gettin money in your Easter eggs as a child, you lost the entire meaning....each to his own though, we are spoiled ones here in U.S. of A. aren't we?

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