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Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 8

 

The number of its inhabitants?

 

Thomas Jefferson; 1787

 

…But are there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected from a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners? It is for the happiness of those united in society to harmonize as much as possible in matters which they must of necessity transact together.

 

Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent. Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies.

 

Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass. I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures.

 

But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable? Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable?

 

Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here. If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements….

 

[From Notes on the State of Virginia, ed. William Peden (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press for the Institute of Early American History and Culture, Williamsburg, Virginia, 1954), 84-5.]

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marilyn37 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 8:59 PM

spain has a real problem as does all of europe too. i saw what the spainish are planning for their illegals on bbc. its a huge problem for the world...everyone is jocking for a better life.

marilyn37 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 8:59 PM

nice blog by the way, thnx

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 9:26 PM

I really could care less about spain, I'm sure they will deal with it correctly for them. The point here is, if immigration is not controlled you will be run over The solution is deport and close the border. kill anyone sneaking in. Hell it would be that way most any where else.

marilyn37 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 9:56 PM

but its not that way in most places in the world either toadie....people are on the move.

no one likes it and all are trying to stop it....countries are all in the same mess

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 10:00 PM

not the ones that shoot first.

marilyn37 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 10:03 PM

mex is shooting those that enter their souther border i heard several years ago so folks lay on top of trains so they wouldnt been seen.

its like ants moving to higher ground after a flood. swarms of people from everywhere on the move...

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 10:08 PM

yup they have their southern border right.

yeah they are coming here to take yours and my jobs.

gjflash read my blog view my photos
Sep 2, 2008 | 11:04 PM

Good post, sparks.

What the planet just doesn't get is that if a society isn't working (like Mexico's) they need to CHANGE it, not export their problems and failed society to successful, productive Countries. We should send Obama to change some of these countries that are actually in need of change. Importing their problems doesn't help them or us.

Let's say you have two barrels of apples, one is full of rotten apples and one is filled with good apples. Do you take a bunch of rotten apples out of the bad barrel, put them in the good barrel, and expect them to transform into good apples?

If you do, then you might be a democrat.

As an aside, many people don't know that Jefferson was the founder of the Demoratic Party, and the smartest Democrat in history. Not many to compare him to, though...Especially these days.

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 3, 2008 | 10:29 PM

the modern day democrat has peverted the meaning of republic. thx. ya know so has the repub.

Raysmom read my blog view my photos
Sep 4, 2008 | 10:08 AM

GI said: Let's say you have two barrels of apples, one is full of rotten apples and one is filled with good apples. Do you take a bunch of rotten apples out of the bad barrel, put them in the good barrel, and expect them to transform into good apples?

That's such a good analogy, for so many situations!

Interesting blog.

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 4, 2008 | 6:46 PM

yes he did and I agree.
thx

Our_American_Pride read my blog
Sep 5, 2008 | 11:22 AM

FANTASTIC post! Your a fantastic blogger and I look forward to reading more from you!

Isaac

toadie800 read my blog view my photos
Sep 5, 2008 | 5:12 PM

Thx but it was a copy, paste. I did look long and hard.

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